No preferential and systematic use of Whole Sign Houses – https://www.skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11947 – Working hypothesis: „There is not a single historical document from antiquity that provides historiographic evidence for the preferential and systematic use of whole-sign houses or justify the assumption of preferential use of a related whole-sign house system in ancient astrological practice.“ – Now try to falsify that. – I claim nobody can regardless of which theory of science is applied in the respective field of science. – „Reading between the lines“ and Inferences are always scientifically problematic. – I remind everyone of the massive errors of Prof. Festugière in the academic field of research as to the Corpus Hermeticum in the second half of the 20ieth Century.
When we look at the Philosophies of Sciences in the different fields – Science of Religion – Social Sciences – Philological Sciences – Historical Sciences – Philosophy of Science etc. – it is good advice to be very careful and humbly restraint. – The argument „Reading between the lines is typically not permissible in court, whereas it is both sanctioned and often necessary for a historian (the important prerequisite being, to paraphrase C.S. Lewis, that you are able first to read the actual lines). So I don’t mind inferences as such; I think they are necessary. We just need to make sure that they are based on all the available evidence, impartially weighed, and not unduly influenced by personal preferences.“ has indeed the massive problem of subjective idiocy. To demonstrate that: Have a look at the facebook discussions about Deborah Houldings vimeo Presentation: – https://vimeo.com/765620082/7d6469fe5b and the discussion here: – http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11925&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=71 – The Bolognascenery in European Universities (except Russia) and the US – Option of getting a B.A. in Genderstudies, embracing the idea that men can have babies and the option of changing your gender daily by thought. We better apply pre – Bologna – Standards. – This is from https://www.skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11925&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105 – as pdf and a result here: – https://talk.vonabisw.de/Valens/WSH.pdf – Nothing there on Houses. – The argument: – „There is at least one genuinely Dorothean example horoscope (Arabic Dorotheus 1.23.15 Dykes = Rhetorius 5.108.1) that uses whole-sign houses, and there are quite a few passages (e.g., Ar. Dor. 1.23.8 Dykes = Rhet. 5.106.1) where the word „sign“ (Greek zōidion = Arabic burj) is used for „place“ (= house). I think this is sufficient to confirm that Dorotheus used whole-sign houses.“ – is not sufficient to falsify the Thesis. – Not only from the point of view of social science it is of epistemological relevance how a possibly freely invented theory is put into the world and with which motives and interest backgrounds the corresponding advertisement (more maliciously formulated propaganda) for this new theory, which was labeled as a „scientific discovery“, takes place. – In the European research landscape on the history of astrology – see for example the 1st Astra Worksop held in English – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkqlBL5O0QWeI-A9xCAFP01Nu5X6Acu61 – and my question from minute 18 regarding WSH in the Q&A video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7J9JyYD6yM&t=60s – the WSH theory of Robert Schmidt has not found any agreement as far as I know. – With Robert Schmidt I found e.g. additionally interesting that he could not prove his finding that Eudoxos or a group around him had created the Hellenistic astrology as a system neither philologically nor historically. – I was particularly struck by the fact that he apparently had not noticed the relevant works of Prof. Dr. Peter Kingsley on Empedocles and Parmenides – Ancient Philosophy, Mystery, and Magic: Empedocles and Pythagorean Tradition and the first edition of „Reality“ – (I think 2004?) – a shortcoming of an American researcher that raises questions. Also, the facts addressed by Deborah Houlding in her Vimeo video are epistemologically significant – namely that only Robert Zoller came into the Hindsight project with knowledge of Traditional Astrology and apparently Robert Schmidt could only contribute philological expertise at the beginning and only learned astrology in the project. – Social backgrounds are sometimes relevant when it comes to assessing the quality of arguments. – Especially when the only expert leaves the project within the first project year. – On this occasion the question: What is the reception history of the Eudoxos topic in the American astrological community? – As far as I know, it did not find any resonance in Europe. – „There is not a single historical document from antiquity that provides historiographic evidence for the preferential and systematic use of whole-sign houses or justify the assumption of preferential use of a related whole-sign house system in ancient astrological practice.“ is the thesis. – The arguments and documents provided by the WSH-Faith brethren are not , as of now, suitable to falsify that thesis. On the contrary – after the scientific – peer-reviewed paper: – Associate Professor Dr. Martin Gansten – Platikos and moirikos – Ancient Horoscopic Practice in the Light of Vettius Valens’ Anthologies – https://brill.com/view/journals/ijdp/4/1/article-p1_1.xml?ebody=pdf-63199 – And I agree with Dr. Luis Ribeiro – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A8DCjSaDBA – that we have a substantial problem in the Astrological Community. – The universal lack, with very few exceptions, of the ability to think critically prevents serious discourse from the outset. – And because of that I understand why serious scientists completely block out the cesspool level in the context of contemporary Astrology in social media from their perception and rightly demand academic standards. – In this context, my respect for Prof. Gansten for his effort to answer unserious Approaches seriously. – But this is the zeitgeist we suffer from – The Bolognascenery in European Universities (except Russia) and the US – Option of getting a B.A. in Genderstudies with 58 genders, embracing the idea that men can have babies and the option of changing your gender daily by thought is a significant problem in our societies. We better apply pre – Bologna – Standards. – But instead people in the US get jailed just for expressing opinions that differ from the mainstream and government propaganda. – The next witch burning also in astrological contexts is already peeking around the corner and I see this in the beginnings of the WSH faith campaign and this context belongs to the overall perception of contemporary history in the context of a absolutist WSH approach that has long been disproved.